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[Lucas]

I have been one time in Israel and I am crazy about Matzo ball soup.
I have read in the pATTAYA mail about a new Jewish restaurant.
It also read some great reviews on another board.
Anybody likes to try ?
But you have to order the Matzo balls soup two days in advance.
So send you personal mail Urgently as I am planning to go this Friday.

Anyone who can explain why it takes two days to make a Matzo balls soup ?

Incase you live in Pattaya and are in a real urge for Pattaya Macho Balls, I would suggest Crazy Dragon.


Just joking Guys, I apologize If I offended somebody.

Any reviews on Palastine cuisine in Pattaya?

[francois]

Incase you live in Pattata and are in a real urge for Pattata Macho Balls, I would suggest Crazy Dragon.
Just joking Guys, I apologize If I offended somebody.

hehehe

I am not sure, but I think that the matzo balls served at Krazy are not Kosher?

[Tuckerton]

[size=2]"Jewish" Chick'n Szoop with Homemade Matzo Balls[/size=2]

• 1 whole (3 to 4 pound) fresh chicken or better yet a capon.
• 1 medium-sized turnip peeled and quartered
• 1 Japanese white Daikon radish sliced into 1/4-inch rounds
• 2 leeks (white part only) washed and cleaned with cold water
(Remove, clean and freeze the green tops from the leeks and make into a bouquet garni which can then be used to add to season future home made stocks of all sorts)
• 1 small rutabaga peeled and quartered
• 3 ribs of de-stringed celery and sliced thinly into 1/2-inch crescents, also chiffonade the tender leaves and add to the soup as well.
• 12 fresh parsley leaves finely minced
• 2 large carrots quartered and/or roll-cut into diamond shapes
• 2 large peeled onions quartered
• 8 black peppercorns crushed
• 1/2 tsp dried thyme
• Kosher salt (so to “Kasher” the chicken)
• q.s. (by titration) additional Salt and pepper according to personal preferences
• q.s. freshly snipped dillweed, as a tableside offering garnish for guests who appreciate dill as a seasoning for chicken soup.

1. Clean the chicken inside and out with cold running water and discard or freeze and reserve the giblets and/or any other trimmings usually found in the cavity of poultry for stock.
2. Massage and rub the entire chicken - inside and out - with plenty of kosher or coarse sea salt, and allow the chicken to stand for 35 minutes.
3. Wash the salt from chicken with plenty of COLD water and place the whole or quartered chicken into a suitable sized stockpot.
4. Mix and strew the vegetables and spices over the chicken, and cover with 4 or 5 quarts of cold water (to reach about 2-inches above he level of the meat.)
5. Bring to a full boil over high heat, and immediately reduce the heat to gentle simmer, and to cook for 1&1/2 to 2 hours, skimming and discarding the foam which forms on the top every half-hour or so.
6. Allow the chicken and its broth to cool but still somewhat warm.
7. Next carefully remove the chicken while it is still firm and not falling apart to a large platter.
8. Allow to cool further and then – using your well-washed hands - remove the meat and skin from the chicken and reserve to incorporate back into the soup… or … use for sandwiches and/or salads.
9. Return the spent carcasses to the pot along with the stock plus perhaps some fresh roll cut carrots and diced raw de-stringed celery stalks and then simmer for an additional hour.
Once again taste carefully and adjust seasonings according to personal preferences

Strain the soup into a large bowl and discard everything remaining in the strainer. Refrigerate the broth until the fat hardens on surface. Remove and reserve the fat.

Reheat the soup and add snipped fresh dill-weed according to personal flavor preferences. Taste carefully and re-season by titration with salt and pepper.


[size=2]"Jewish" Homemade Matzo Balls[/size=2]
Yield: about 12 to 15 matzo balls

• 4 eggs
• 1/2 cup club soda
• 3 Tbsp vegetable oil or chicken fat (schmaltz)
• 2 Tbsp finely chopped parsley
• Salt
• Freshly ground black pepper
• 1 cup matzo meal
(NB: There might be a problem here in Thailand is finding Matzo either as sheets or as Matzo meal. I do think that During Passover, certain (“high priced”) stores such as Villa Market would carry Matzo.)

1. Whisk the eggs until blended.
2. Add to the whisked eggs the club soda, vegetable oil or schmaltz, salt and pepper. Taste carefully and adjust by titration the salt an pepper
3. Toss and gently mix the parsley with the matzo meal and finally stir-in the seasoned club soda/oil mixture.
4. Cover and refrigerate this mixture for about 1 hour.
5. Bring about 5 quarts of water to boil. Rub vegetable oil on hands and form matzo balls with about two tablespoons of mixture. Drop in boiling water and simmer covered and don't peek (okay, maybe once or twice) for about 25 to 35 minutes. Serve in Absolute Best Passover Chicken Broth.
6. Bring about 5 quarts of water to boil in a large pot.
7. Coat your hands with vegetable and form into matzo balls using about 1/4-cup of mixture for each.
8. Carefully place into boiling water and simmer covered for about 25 to 35 minutes.
9. Serve in full flavored Chicken Broth.

Yield: about 12 to 15 matzo balls

PS This is my recipe I did not copy, cut and/or paste it from a newspaper or any published ©cookbook

[TheYenta]

Sounds wonderful but there's one point to remember: the chicken must be killed in accordance with Jewish laws or the meal is not kosher.

[Tuckerton]

Sounds wonderful but there's one point to remember: the chicken must be killed in accordance with Jewish laws or the meal is not kosher.

Dear Yenta: I have had my commercial kitchen in Philadelphia kashered on several occasions when I was asked to provide kosher fund raising dinners for The Jewish Theological Seminary of New York City and I am very well acquainted with the Kashrut Rules for such occasions.

Certainly many - if not most - Orthodox Jews observe strict dietary traditions especially during Passover and other Jewish holidays. However I do not think that was the purpose of the Matzo Ball Soup query. Afterall, traditional so-called Jewish foods and recipes (especially Eastern European renditions) are widely enjoyed today by non-Jews and less observant Jews all over the world. I doubt few if any strictly observant Orthodox Jews live in Pattaya.

[dolypardon]

there is a Stamp of aproval review( gay thailand board) Maybe the writer of that review could comment if the chicken has been killed the way Jews like to kill.

[Tuckerton]

there is a Stamp of aproval review( gay thailand board) Maybe the writer of that review could comment if the chicken has been killed the way Jews like to kill.

I was unable to find the "Stamp of approval" review on the Gay Thailand board. I would be interested in what was said in that review.

[dolypardon]

Sorry Tuckerton but here is the link: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.ph...estaurant-find/

If you read the full report you will find out that they are looking for a tie-breaker !

Anybody ?

[Tuckerton]

Sorry Tuckerton but here is the link: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.ph...estaurant-find/

If you read the full report you will find out that they are looking for a tie-breaker !

Anybody ?

Thanks Dolypardon:
Actually I prefer to cook at home, especially when conflicting reports about the food and experiences when wannabe "Restaurant Reviewers" start shooting at each other regarding the quality of the food and service found at food emporiums in the Pattaya area.

The adage regarding opinions about food and "taste" is "De gustibus non est disputatum"

[Tuckerton]

Thanks Dolypardon:
Actually I prefer to cook at home, especially when conflicting reports about the food and experiences when wannabe "Restaurant Reviewers" start shooting at each other regarding the quality of the food and service found at food emporiums in the Pattaya area.

The adage regarding opinions about food and "taste" is "De gustibus non est disputatum"

PS and by the way to Dolly Pardon:
The link you gave to me for the Gay Thailand Board has no information regarding kosher dietary rules for cooking or slaughtering meat products. Maybe I'm just hitting the wrong keys.

I've been told my many of my "old-world" Jewish friends that my recipe for Matzo Ball Soup ist säer gueshmak and that whether or not it is has been kashered doesn't matter except in Orthodox homes and/or High Holidays such as Passover.

[dolypardon]

Dear Tuckerton.

I have never wrote that you could find some information on jewish killing at the Gay Thailand board.


Its a pitty you don't like to act as a tie break. It seems to me that you could be a very good restaurant reviewer for sure you know a lot about food.

[Khor tose]

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[Gaybutton]

Gay Thailand Board has no information regarding kosher dietary rules for cooking or slaughtering meat products. Maybe I'm just hitting the wrong keys.

The 'Pattaya People' article linked in the post makes it perfectly clear. I saw no reason to repeat it in the post.

[Angel]

I am Jewish but I do not care how they slaughter the chicken for my soup. I eat it all even if it is Hallal.

[TheYenta]

Hmmmmm.....a Jew named Angel. No doubt, a member of the lost tribe in Puerto Rico.

[Tuckerton]

The 'Pattaya People' article linked in the post makes it perfectly clear. I saw no reason to repeat it in the post.

Mea culpa; mea maxima culpa! I thought the original question centered about foods being Glat Kosher. In any case, I stand by my recipe no matter what ... It matters not whether it is Kosher; the final disposition rests in the hedonistic and sensual enjoyment by the participants.

Of course by your side-stepping the original query it follows that I may assume by your reluctance to do anything beside eat in restaurants and that you either don't like to cook, or don't know how, nor do you wish to try to understand the methods, work and judgmental tasting skills that are required to produce meals that taste good.

I post this message not as a personal attack, but rather as someone who feels sorry for your inabilities to fully enjoy what is set before you at table.

[Gaybutton]

I post this message not as a personal attack, but rather as someone who feels sorry for your inabilities to fully enjoy what is set before you at table.

That's not a personal attack? Save your sympathies for yourself. So you know how to cook. I'm so very impressed. And because my tastes are not the same as yours, I don't fully enjoy what is set before me at the table? Based on your posts it seems to me that you are quite limited in your own tastes. If you're not served lavish gourmet meals cooked to absolute perfection, with well trained waiter service, gorgeous surroundings, and fine wines, then you're not satisfied. My tastes are far more diverse than that. I certainly do enjoy those kinds of meals, but I also enjoy meals that are far beneath your apparently snobbish tastes.

Now, just what did I sidestep? The article contains what people need to know about kosher and my post has a link to that article. That's not good enough for you?

[Tuckerton]

That's not a personal attack? Save your sympathies for yourself. So you know how to cook. I'm so very impressed. Now, just what did I sidestep? The article contains what people need to know about kosher and my post has a link to that article. That's not good enough for you?

Who are these "people" and what and why do they need to know about kashering, before they sample a menu which is offered. From a biological point of view, the proof of the pudding is in the eating not in the religious ceremony. That various religions have throughout history adopted certain taboos and dietary customs is a well known and an accepted fact. I personally find it rewarding as a culinarian to be familiar with these customs. From what I've read on various Gay oriented posting boards most all of your posting history is based on arguing for the sake of argument. By arguing about almost any and everything, you show your lack of manners.

Please Mr, Gaybutton do try and relax and enjoy life. BTW I am not a food snob as you recently suggested. Of course by your own admission you consider yourself always right about everything, and I do not wish to affront that issue.

[Gaybutton]

I do not wish to affront that issue.

You don't have to worry this time because I don't know what the hell you're talking about. But, by what you normally post, neither do you.

[TheCount]

test..



I am a newbie on this board and I am already afraid to post on this board.You guys are rough in your replies to each other.

How do you kill Kosher ?
How do you kill Hallal ?
How do you kill each other ?

[toprogue]

test..
I am a newbie on this board and I am already afraid to post on this board.You guys are rough in your replies to each other.

How do you kill Kosher ?
How do you kill Hallal ?
How do you kill each other ?

how well i understand you. ive been reading on this board for a while now and will NEVER do any posting
everyone sems to have only one goal .bash each other over the head

[Tuckerton]

test..
I am a newbie on this board and I am already afraid to post on this board.You guys are rough in your replies to each other.

How do you kill Kosher ?
How do you kill Hallal ?
How do you kill each other ?

Fortunately most of these "pissing contests" eventually abate; cease, and desist ... but alas only to be replaced by equally silly rambling arguments. You will find that certain characters who post regularly are more absurd than others, to the point that freedom of speech becomes a worn out joke.

[Tuckerton]

Based on your posts it seems to me that you are quite limited in your own tastes. If you're not served lavish gourmet meals cooked to absolute perfection, with well trained waiter service, gorgeous surroundings, and fine wines, then you're not satisfied...

... My [i/e/ GB's] tastes are far more diverse than that. I certainly do enjoy those kinds of meals, but I also enjoy meals that are far beneath your apparently snobbish tastes.

..."apparently" is a big word but you happen to be 200% wrong.

Boy are you dead wrong about what foods I like and where it eat. I assure you that I am NOT a Food Snob.

One of these days I shall discharge for you my credentials, and watch your face turn embarrassingly red.

[Gaybutton]

One of these days I shall discharge for you my credentials, and watch your face turn embarrassingly red.

I'd have to give a damn first. I don't. I acknowledge and concede that you are very likely quite an expert and in comparison I have no expertise whatsoever. I'm thrilled for you and your credentials.

[TheCount]

G.B. I see no reasons to speak in such a bad manner to Chef Tuckerton.
You are the one who posted another missleading restaurant review on your board.
Your the one to blame .
Here is the quote from lvdkeyes:

Three of us just came back from King David's and we are unanimous that we would NOT go back. I had the chicken soup which was good, but my chicken schnitzel was grease laden. The other guy who ordered it mopped the grease from his with a napkin. He ordered baked potato and got diced fried greasy potatoes. The Israeli salad was good. My bf order the fish and chips. The fish was a thin piece of fish coated with a thick, again greasy, batter and the fries were laden with grease. It is apparent that the cook doesn't know anything about frying food.
After we left my bf told me that when we were ordering he asked the waitress what was good and she told him "nothing". I have to say it was one of the most disappointing dinners I have had in Pattaya

and here the link for the full topic/review

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index.ph...estaurant-find/