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[Jetsam]

What a great man to appoligize in this way , it break my heart

[Gene]

I have now just found out ... you have to rehash it in your own words, I had no idea!!

If you had no idea, perhaps you can tell us why the only thing you erased from the article you lifted word-for-word was the name of the newspaper, for which you substituted the words "my sources."

You not only knew it was wrong, you erased the paper's name so it couldn't be traced . . .or so you thought. Then you let GB go out of his way to defend you, only to have the rug pulled out from under him by the real article you stole.

Now you say you're sorry.....sorry that you got caught !!! Some aplology !

[TheYenta]

But I do not rehash written copy, this is my crime, as we have now confirmed I should of known seeing Hedda doing it for years.

That's what The Wig just posted on GayThailand in the past hour, which is long after his "apology" here.

If anyone thinks that Ear Wig has apologized for plagiarism, or has retracted his accusations about Hedda and this Board, they should read what the Wig has been writing on GayThailand. It's clear that the only thing he is sorry for is that he got caught in the act of stealing articles.

The sad part is that GayThailand's owner seems to think this is all much ado about nothing, even though his moderator, Gaybutton has obviously been burned by the whole episode. GayThailand calls Ear Wig's plagiarism "an error in citation." Geezer thinks that's a croq and I agree. No one, including GayButton, is going to get Ear Wig to behave like an adult if GayThailand is going to cover for him every time he goes over the top.

[UncleSam]

I have now just found out ...you have to rehash it in your own words

That could have been written by Baby Jane Hudson as she served Blanche her din din.

Hehehe.....

[UncleSam]

I normally am in the scene to report everything first hand

That could certainly explain all those lurid stories about the kiddie scene in Sunee Plaza.

Hehehe.....

[Haloi]

That's no apology in my book. He says he is sorry if he offended anyone, not that he's sorry that he plagiarized an article, made a fool out of Gaybutton in the process and then made false accusations against Hedda and Bahtstop to try and divert attention from getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Obviously, the people here will have to decide whether to accept this mealy-mouthed "apology." If it was my decision, I would tell Ear Wig to go pound sand. Too many moderators have given this spoiled child his way too often.

[Snowy]

Haloi, on Dec 18 2006, 05:56 AM, said:

That's no apology in my book. He says he is sorry if he offended anyone, not that he's sorry that he plagiarized an article and then made false accusations against Hedda and Bahtstop to try and divert attention.

Obviously, the people here will have to decide whether to accept this mealy-mouthed "apology." If it was my decision, I would tell Ear Wig to go pound sand. Too many moderators have given this spoiled child his way too often.

I totally agree.

He fails to appreciate that it is not the fact that he quoted someone elses article but that he altered it to make it appear as though he had written it, which is in fact a basic definition of plagiarism.
There is nothing wrong in quoting newspaper or other articles provided that you don't try to pass them of as your own and also provided to you add a link to the original article or cite the details of where the article came from.

The so-called apology is a pathetic attempt not to be suspended, without admitting that he was in the wrong or apologising to Hedda and the board for accusing them of plagiarism. The only thing he is sorry for is that he was caught out. IMHO Bahtstop should proceed with the suspension as notified.

ear wig, on Dec 18 2006, 06:05 AM, said:

Some times if you would stop keep mentioning it we can all get over it ............. if you boil it all down its not a big deal.

Now he is hoping that we will all forget about it - how he would like that !
If it's not a big deal why not give a straightforward and honest apology ?

[francois]

Cher EarWig, It is very difficult to accept your "apologie" as written. You have insulted and outraged so many people on this and other forums that it stupifies the intellect. but, perhaps, you may realize your faults? I hope that is the situation
Francois.

[Hedda]

Only Bahtstop can decide if he wishes to accept this apology and play host to Ear Wig. It's not an easy chice, given recent events and some unfortunate choice of words by Ear Wig and one especially insensitive ghost, who seems to think that nothing less than bloody homicide with ink stained hands merits reproach.

Reduced to the core, and ignoring some of the usual hyperbole, Ear Wig seems to be saying that he never realized until now what plagiarism was: that copying other people's work product verbatim, without quoting and attributing them as source, is improper and unethical in literary society.

We have no choice but to accept The Wig's protests of ignorance at face value. To do otherwise would suggest that he is a hopeless, unmitigated and unrepentant liar, which is something I do not think that Bahtstop is prepared to do.

The real question is whether The Wig now realizes the necessity to adapt his posting habits to reflect his new understanding of plagiarism. Only time will tell if that's the case.

Old dogs do not learn new tricks easily. As an old writer myself, I view with some alarm the prospect of seeing just how The Wig proposes to undertake the task of what he fondly calls "rehashing the news." I have visions of a paunchy short-order cook slugging burgers on the barbie with the ghost floating overhead. Learning how to cut and paste, with proper attribution, might be a safer choice for all of us.

Nevertheless, I urge Bahtstop to accept The Wig's apology, albeit imperfect, and let's all move on to the fun of rehashing the news.
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[Naughty but Nice]

Im so sorry if I have offended any one.

I hope this is in keeping with my apology I do humbly hope Im forgiven.

Earwig that is nowhere near an apology.

You have not apologied to the people that leapt to your defence only to find themselves betrayed.

You continue post as Joan Crawford's Ghost, whether or not the words are written by you or for you is irrelvant, you continue to wriggle and squirm pleading you did not know you could steal someone else work yet you claim to have been in journalism for years.

If the Mods of this board and the people that leapt to your defence and support accept you tongue in cheek apology and permit you back on this board then this board wil not IMHO grown stronger and credible as we all hoped in the early days.

I am not particular fan of Hedda as some of his stuff is a bit heavy reading for me but your accusations against him were reprehensible and yet even in your apology you are not man enough to actually mention his name and apologise to him.

The so called apology was nothing more than you taking the piss out of the boards and its members which has been your disprutive modus-operandi on most boards.

[Snowy]

I'm beginning to think you really are in love with Earwig. ........ Can't you take up knitting or something ?

Au contraire Pearl - it is you who is one of the three people in love with Earwig - the other two are GayThailand and Earwig himself.

As for knitting dearie, the needles are already clacking as we wait for Earwig's tumbril to roll by.

[Butch (sic)]

Im so sorry if I have offended any one....
I hope this is in keeping with my apology I do humbly hope Im forgiven. says ear wig

(And in a later post takes a (mild) poke at Hedda.)

Sounds like an appology to me; unless you expect him to grovel.
I've heard said, 'it takes a big person to appologise, and a bigger person to accept the appology;' as Hedda graciously has.
Any way; if you get him banned, who will there be to kick around?

[Village Idiot]

earwig made his apology.. it is absurd to expect remorse or contrition from any poster, so it is time to let it go and go on .. it is up to the moderator/administrator to make a decision and we will all
abide by that..

many of us get carried away with our own importance and self centered views on issues and while
it is easy to jump on the bandwagon and shout "off with his head", it is not our decision and I for one
do not not like lynchings or the crowd mentality..

Even thou Hedda suggested as punishment for his crimes that he be confined with this idiot, I do agree
with Hedda and think it is time to move on and if Baht-Stop is satisfied, we should be as well..

I don't see the big deal with the plagarism and not giving credit to sources.. It is not like this is his
doctoral thesis or a book that was published.. It is sort of like putting Al Capone in prison for income tax
evasion rather than for murder, extortion, kidnapping, etc.

There is also something about kicking a man when he is down that leaves me with an empty feeling and even if the apology isn't satisfactory to some, it is still an apology and up to the higher powers to decide..

[jim]

OK. So Earwig failed to mention that he'd lifted the words from another article. Shame. Shame. At least when he does that it's a lot easier to read.

Earwig, u should say "I apologize for plagarizing, and I'll be sure to put quotes around it next time and say where it came from. I'm a bad boy".

There.

I like it when people lift (reasonably short) articles off of other boards, newspapers, blogs, whatever. I don't have time read a lot of things, and if Earwig, or whoever, puts it here for me to read (or not read) it's just fine with me.

tempest in a teapot for sure. And, SURELY not enough cause to be banned from a board.

[Gaybutton]

tempest in a teapot for sure. And, SURELY not enough cause to be banned from a board.

I don't think the problem is the plagiarism in and of itself. The problem is in that he constantly brags and posts claims of having spies, sources, and being privy to information that only he can provide. Meanwhile, what he did was to change the wording of the article to make it appear that it was he who gathered this information on his own, and apparently tried to disguise the fact that it actually came from an article.

If he had not intentionally changed the wording, which caused many to take it as a deliberate deception and not simply a failure to cite his source, and if he had not so often posted claims that he has access to information and people that others do not (even if it's true), then I doubt there would ever have been this brouhaha.

It is my opinion that he brought this on to himself. Few people appreciate reading the constant postings of a braggart. I believe that is why he is so despised by some and why many so readily jumped all over this when the opportunity arose. If he will simply post his information honestly, without the bragging, without changing the wording of articles, along with citing his sources, then I believe he can, and will, become an asset to the message boards. I don't think an apology is anywhere near as important as a pledge to post in that manner from now on.

He was simply wrong to do what he did and wrong to do it the way he did. Some consider his apology to be sincere. Others consider it to be insincere.