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#1 DOLLY

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:34 PM

In case you missed the news, the GayThailand posting board has announced that it will be closing in about two weeks. It's not clear yet to me, from reading the posts, if past posts on GT will get transferred en masse to become part of an existing escort service website. Some GT posters have objected to that happening.

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/Gay-Thai...Move-t5764.html

GayThailand's main moderator, Gaybutton has announced plans to open his own new board after the GT board shuts down.

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/Gay-Thai...Move-t5765.html

#2 mauRICE

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:42 PM

I was surprised to see how terse GT was with GB in response to GB's suggestion that posts of members who don't want them to be carried over to the prostitution site be deleted if they requested for it. Gaythailand's acerbic response to Gaybutton was: "Perhaps you can't read." Not a classy way of showing appreciation to someone who has spent a lot of effort over the years moderating your board.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE(DOLLY @ Jul 30 2010, 01:34 PM) View Post

In case you missed the news, the GayThailand posting board has announced that it will be closing in about two weeks.

The announcement states the closure of the whole website not just the message board. I feel sorry for GT,
because in the end of the day he represents the best America still has to offer: energetic and enterpreneural guy who is capable to create and add value and (along the way) do something useful for the community.
Unfortunate alliance with Gaybutton who managed to transform the message board into masturbation circle
for a small group of his buddies led IMHO to eventual demise of the whole enterprise. The silver lining here that hopefully GT will be able now to move on and get rid of this unnatural dependence on the monstrosity commonly known as Gaybutton-the dark and sad side of Pattaya.

#4 mauRICE

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Leopold @ Jul 30 2010, 02:44 PM) View Post

The silver lining here that hopefully GT will be able now to move on and get rid of this unnatural dependence on the monstrosity commonly known as Gaybutton-the dark and sad side of Pattaya.


laugh.gif You have such a way with words.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:08 PM

Thats also the way I see it.

Gay-Thailand wanted to get rid of G.B.

Last time the cyber police closed G.B. messages board G.B. was to afraid to call this police and ask for explanation.

This time the same will happen, I think its better that G.B. stops being the Gay Dictator of the Pattaya Gay messages boards.
I think he better becomes and active poster here over at the wonder full Baht-Stop.

I hope and I will pray to Buddha that we will see the end of G.B. moderation in the nearby future.

Please Buddha help us !!

#6 GayTroller

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:13 AM

Unfortunately, GB's new board is likely to turn into the same one-man show that his old board became before it closed. Toward the end, it had no regular posters except GB. That's because GB, no matter how informed he is on local gay Pattaya events, has this itch to insert his opinion on every topic that gets posted and when he gets challenged his short fuse and tendency to attack people eventually drives away all but a few of his personal buddies or some of the most boring posters you will find on the boards. Just look at the few nitwits and dull Jacks that still post on GT and you'll see what I mean. Take it from a 14 year veteran of many boards, I think that a guy like GB would be far happier and better off opening a blog where he can talk to his heart's content about gay Pattaya and not get into constant fights with anyone who disagrees with him.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:29 PM

Yes thats a great idea have him to open a blog.
Maybe he can ask Hedda to help him to open a blog.
Remember the Hedda Hopper blog.

#8 moe

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:36 PM

It all seems so long ago.




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#9 mauRICE

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE(GayTroller @ Jul 31 2010, 11:13 AM) View Post

That's because GB, no matter how informed he is on local gay Pattaya events, has this itch to insert his opinion on every topic that gets posted and when he gets challenged his short fuse and tendency to attack people eventually drives away all but a few of his personal buddies or some of the most boring posters you will find on the boards.


Yes, but let's not throw the baby with the bath water. I'm going to use that board for nuts and bolts, non-contentious questions on living in Thailand - the nitty gritties as it were - and stick to this one for cultural, sociological and political issues.
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Posted 01 August 2010 - 02:34 AM

[quote name='mauRICE' date='Aug 1 2010, 01:51 AM' post='34341']
I'm going to use that board for nuts and bolts, non-contentious questions on living in Thailand - the nitty gritties as it were


Are you learning something in this respect? If you are interested in current menu of one of numerous mediocre restaurants , how to find a plumber or even who murdered one of the owners of " La Dolche Vita"
(all in Pattaya), yes, you can learn something. It is as if you are a part of conversation in Jomtien beach.
I, by the way, see nothing wrong with beach gossip. It is when it is raised to the level of open public forum (as something of importance) it gets totally ridiculus. I do not read forums like SF or tingtong (or say pattaya passion when it was operational). Thus for me it is another message board which I can safely skip.
GT website has much broader international membership and that influenced the message board. If there was something interesting in that message board, it is not because of Gaybutton and small group of his cronies ( I would make exception for Rich LB) but inspite of it.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 10:55 AM

The new Gaybutton board is already up and running. In case you wondered if this new GB board will have a new, kinder and gentler approach to moderating than his previous board, it doesn't look that way:

New Poster: "I can only hope that this forum, unlike others, does not become a horrid little window into a universe of ignorance, snide innuendo, dark prejudice, buffoonery, puffery, and name dropping."

Gaybutton: "Believe me, there's no chance whatsoever of that happening. I do run my board with a heavy hand and I have no intention of letting the trolls in at all. Even on the Gay Thailand board, on which I did my best to comply with GT's wishes, and he is infinitely more patient than I, I still would usually warn only once.

I think we are all well aware of the kinds of people who have taken over certain other boards. No way here. I simply don't put up with it and I'm not going to sit idly by and force legitimate board users to have to wade through a bunch of crap before they can find posts worth reading. I often get called a 'control freak' for doing things that way. I agree. Those are the freaks that need controlling."

http://gaybuttonthai.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18

#12 Bob

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE(Harold @ Jul 31 2010, 11:55 PM) View Post

The new Gaybutton board is already up and running. In case you wondered if this new GB board will have a new, kinder and gentler approach to moderating than his previous board, it doesn't look that way:



I don't quite understand why you particularly care. If you don't like a board's moderating style, don't go there. Bitching about it here is rather pedestrian.

Many, including myself, happen to like some level of moderation as it tends to eliminate the few morons that color and disrupt a given board.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE(Bob @ Aug 1 2010, 11:48 AM) View Post

Many, including myself, happen to like some level of moderation...


Sure, especially when other people's posts are randomly deleted to accommodate yours.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:25 AM

QUOTE(KhunArt @ Aug 1 2010, 08:04 AM) View Post

Sure, especially when other people's posts are randomly deleted to accommodate yours.


Huh? Nobody's deleted any posts anywhere to accommodate me. And I doubt if any post was "randomly" deleted (quite intentional would be my guess).

#15 Tony

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:32 PM

Bob on this board yesterday:
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If you don't like a board's moderating style, don't go there. Bitching about it here is rather pedestrian.

Same Bob on the new GB board yesterday:
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"Those "harsh" comments, by and large, emanate from posters you'd generally not want on any board and who have found safe refuge on two other boards due to a lack of any reasonable (or even unreasonable) moderation."

Maybe Bob can identify those "two other boards" whose moderators he finds so unsatisfactory and explain why he seems to think it's Ok to bitch about those boards on GB's board. Maybe he can also explain why he doesn't practice what he preaches and stops posting on boards he finds so objectionable when it comes to moderating.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

This is going to be the first time G.B. doesn't reply on a topic about himself.
Finanly he understand that a board moderator and now even a Message board owner should be gentle and behave himself on other forums.
I am sure we will almost see and hear nothing about G.B. on this forum.
This is a day to celebrate.
Lets have fun and see how his new forum works out.
Would you think that if they allow LMTU to come back ,they allow Loeploh and Nalac also ?


#17 Dick

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:33 AM

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Maybe Bob can identify those "two other boards" whose moderators he finds so unsatisfactory and explain why he seems to think it's Ok to bitch about those boards on GB's board. Maybe he can also explain why he doesn't practice what he preaches and stops posting on boards he finds so objectionable when it comes to moderating.


It's pretty clear that Bob was targeting Sawatdee Forum and Bahtstop, both of which he regularly posts, in his criticism of the moderators. As one of the most veteran posters on SF and Pattayagay before that, he's also on record a hundred times as saying that an owner has the right to operate his board as he sees fit and if you don't like it, don't visit the site. Obviously, Bob can post what he wants where he wants, but using GB's new board to take a cheap shot like that against boards Bob has visited and posted strikes me as bad form by a very ungrateful guest.

#18 Bob

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:36 AM

Get off it, Dick, and save your indignation for the few morons that roam these halls (which, I notice, has never been forthcoming).

What I said on the other board (in response to someone noting that there were some harsh comments being posted on other unnamed boards) was:
"Those "harsh" comments, by and large, emanate from posters you'd generally not want on any board and who have found safe refuge on two other boards due to a lack of any reasonable (or even unreasonable) moderation. "

A rather accurate statement in my view.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:52 AM

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Your logic, Dick, escapes me.

As does Bob's response to Dick, which is no response at all since he totally avoids the issue of why he thought it acceptable to criticize the Bahtstop's moderators on GB's new board, something he always criticize people for doing here. Clearly Bob is applying a double standard to himself.

Bob, you also ignore the fact that 95% of the post here have nothing to do with the people you choose to call "idiots" and it's a simply matter to avoid the threads that they originate and that you don't care to read. It's not like SF, where the same people are constantly inserting their personal attacks in every thread, no matter how it start off, and the thread degenerates into personal insults. That doesn't happen here, so there's no reason for moderators to do anything. What you really are calling for is for people you don't like as posters to be banned. Thankfully, this board doesn't accept that kind of internet censorship.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:29 AM

Dolly, there's a difference between personally attacking a moderator and criticizing a board for lack of moderation.

As to your comment about threads degenerating into personal insults elsewhere, you're absolutely right - and it's happening due to no reasonable moderation. But (admittedly to a lesser degree) it happens right here in river city.

(Although no big deal at all - and this is said to avoid confusion by Dick - you apparently quoted me while I was in the process of editing my comments)

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE(Bob @ Aug 1 2010, 11:48 AM) View Post

I don't quite understand why you particularly care. If you don't like a board's moderating style, don't go there.

Just apply this advice to yourself and fuck off. Nobody wants you over here.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE(Leopold @ Aug 3 2010, 12:55 AM) View Post

Just apply this advice to yourself and fuck off. Nobody wants you over here.


Ah, the resident genius speaks.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE(Bob @ Aug 2 2010, 09:02 PM) View Post

Ah, the resident genius speaks.

Bob, I have the following people on ignore and would appreciate it if you would refrain from quoting their inane drivel. Prague-prada-pussy-poppy-lasalle-leopold-yesiam. I am sure this is only one or two people at the most as this web sites allows hydras as long as they agree with the majority opinions.



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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:59 PM

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"Ah, the resident genius speaks."

Forgive me if I have misunderstood your position, but that post of yours, although provoked, is just the kind of personal comment that you seem to think should be the subject of moderator intervention. You seem to want your cake and throw it too.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:08 PM

Khor-tose has posters on his ingnore list who never post.
How stupid can you be !
Who the fuck are prada-lasalle-prague-poppy ?
I know YeSiam thats Yesitsme but I do not know Pussy and I do not know Leoplod.